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User:Oshnugimo

2009-07-29T18:05:07Z

Oshnugimo: Created page with 'Alt of Plontir and Exam among others. Have just a limited experience with priests for now.'

Alt of Plontir and Exam among others.
Have just a limited experience with priests for now.

Talk:Main Page

2009-07-29T18:04:03Z

Oshnugimo: /* The other wiki */

[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive]]

==Woohoo!==
We're up and running! Fluffs to ourselves and mostly Mishal!

== MUD IP Address ==

Because [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Discworld_MUD#IP_adress.3F Wikipedia doesn't want the IP address posted], but it is useful to know (for strange situations in which DNS breaks), here it is: 82.68.167.69. Connecting to that will work in exactly the same way as connecting to discworld.atuin.net, even if DNS breaks!

== Skill redirects ==

Currently, if you link to a skills, like [[faith.rituals.special]], it redirects to [[Skills]]. However, I think it would be much more useful if each skill redirected to its own "what links here" page ([[Special:WhatLinksHere/Faith.rituals.special]]), since then if you clicked on a skill, you'd get a nice list of rituals and such that used that skill. As it is, it's not obvious how you find that (I assumed at first that "what links here" was for outside sites that linked to the wiki). (I think redirecting to the "what links here" page would be better than just editing each skill's page to list the rituals that use it, since then there'd be no need to edit those pages when we found another skill a ritual uses.)

If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and do this. It seems like a somewhat major change, though, so I'd like to get people's thoughts first.

--[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 11:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:That sounds like a good idea. I wonder if the What Links Here page can be included as a template or something... Not sure if that's possible. That way we could still link to the skills page at the same time and potentially add more information about each skill in future. Worth a try, anyway. I'd say go for it, when you can :) *hopes editing on his phone won't break things...* -- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 15:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

::Great! It's done; I went ahead and added links to the faith tree skills in [[Skills]], too. --[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 02:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Navigation Menu ==

Editing the navigation menu (the list on the left) is done by editing the [[MediaWiki:Sidebar|Sidebar page]]. Whether this can be done by anyone besides sysops ([[User:LaoTzu|LaoTzu]] and [[User:Mishal|myself]]), I'm unsure, but if I don't leave this note on the discussion page, I'll forget where to edit it and have to Google that same question for a third time :p -- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 01:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Software Upgrades ==

* 12 April 2009: Upgraded from 1.13.2 to 1.14.0
* 10 June 2009: Upgraded from 1.14.0 to 1.15.0

I'm so glad that I set this up with Subversion. Upgrading is so easy :)<br>
-- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 15:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

== Learnt-at levels ==

I converted [[Learnt_at_level_table/Pishe]] to the [[Talk:Learnt_at_level_table | format suggested here]]--seems to work pretty well, though it might be useful to have a way to show which category a number is in lower down, i.e., as it is, if you're near the bottom of the table it's hard to see at a glance whether it's, say, 75 in cu.ta or mi.ar--you have to count columns or scroll back up. I was thinking possibly background colours for individual cells, something like:

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"
! rowspan="4" | || colspan="11" | faith
|-
! colspan="11" | rituals
|-
! colspan="2" | offensive || colspan="3" | defensive || colspan="2" | curing || colspan="3" | misc || rowspan="2" | special
|-
! area || target || area || self || target || self || target || area || self || target
|-
| '''[[Turn Undead]]''' ||style="background-color:#ffbbbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffbbbb;" | 100 ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbffbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbffbb;" |  ||  ||  ||  || 
|-
| '''[[Warm]]''' ||style="background-color:#ffbbbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffbbbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" | 999 ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbffbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbffbb;" |  || colspan="3" align="center" | 30 || 
|-
| '''[[Wicker Ward]]''' ||style="background-color:#ffbbbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffbbbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbbbff;" |  ||style="background-color:#bbffbb;" | 999 ||style="background-color:#bbffbb;" |  ||  ||  ||  || 
|}

Added a couple of extra numbers to show what text looks like against the light green and blue (chose the colours to match what those types of rituals look like as wards, seemed appropriate--though sadly it means misc and ri.sp are both white. Could make ri.sp grey or something). Anyway--this would be pretty quick to add (just a replace operation on "--fa.ri.def" and so forth--those comments are terribly useful) and would look nice, but the downside--which you'll see if you edit the page--is that it clutters up the code enormously and would make it more difficult to edit. But then, what with the nature of these, they probably wouldn't need to be edited very often. Thoughts?

--[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 03:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

:Ooh yes, the colours are very nice :) My first thought was to have them match the colours that we already use for the meditate box, though maybe a lighter shade of each, making offensive red, defensive green, healing yellow and miscellaneous grey (though we still wouldn't have a colour for special...). Alternatively/additionally we could replicate the header either halfway down the table or at the bottom of the table:
:{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"
! rowspan="4" | || colspan="11" | faith
|-
! colspan="11" | rituals
|-
! colspan="2" | offensive || colspan="3" | defensive || colspan="2" | curing || colspan="3" | misc || rowspan="2" | special
|-
! area || target || area || self || target || self || target || area || self || target
|-
| '''[[Turn Undead]]''' ||style="background-color:#fbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#fbb;" | 100 ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbf;" | 
|-
| '''[[Warm]]''' ||style="background-color:#fbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#fbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" | 999 ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffb;" |  || colspan="3" align="center" style="background-color:#bbb;" | 30 || style="background-color:#bbf;" | 
|-
! rowspan="4" | || colspan="11" | faith
|-
! colspan="11" | rituals
|-
! colspan="2" | offensive || colspan="3" | defensive || colspan="2" | curing || colspan="3" | misc || rowspan="2" | special
|-
! area || target || area || self || target || self || target || area || self || target
|-
| '''[[Wicker Ward]]''' ||style="background-color:#fbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#fbb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#bfb;" |  ||style="background-color:#ffb;" | 999 ||style="background-color:#ffb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbb;" |  || style="background-color:#bbf;" | 
|}
:My main concern with doing it with this table format is that we remove the comments for each skill, so if, for example, the skill at which a ritual was learnt switched from faith to fa.ri.mi.ta, it wouldn't be too easy to do (though it'd be easy enough to just copy a full line, I guess). Also, there isn't any distinction between fa and fa.ri, but I don't think we really need one, do we?
:I wonder if templates can be used for individual table rows. That would certainly make things easier. Instead of putting the code for a full row in each page, we could just use, say, <code><nowiki>{{LearntAtTableRow | fa.ri.mi.ta=175}}</nowiki></code> and have the template take care of it all. Would only work if templates get replaced in pages BEFORE tables get parsed, though. This would also solve the problem of the messy code with colours...
:-- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 08:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

::Hmmm... true, but I think it would be easy enough to just copy from another row, since most of them ''are'' learned at a level of a subskill. And we could always put a full, empty row somewhere as an example/thing to copy. The template thing sounds cool, though... think that's doable?
::ETA: oh! Or, if it isn't, what if we made a template for each ''cell''? So that, I guess, a row would look something like, <code><nowiki> {{of.ar}} {{of.ta}} {{de.ar}} {{de.se}}50 {{de.ta}} {{mi.ar}} {{mi.se}} {{mi.ta}} {{ri.sp]]</nowiki></code> or of course <code><nowiki> {{of.ar}} {{of.ta}} {{de.ar}} {{de.se}} {{de.ta}} {{mi}}60 {{ri.sp]]</nowiki></code>
::--[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 21:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Site problems?==
What's up with the watchlist and recent changes pages? I get a database error when I try to access them:
<pre><code>A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
(SQL query hidden)
from within function "SpecialRecentChanges::doMainQuery". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'moria_dwpriests.tag_summary' doesn't exist (localhost)".</code></pre>
--[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 00:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

:Turns out there were some database changes in the latest MediaWiki update, and I had to run the update script. Nothing ever told me that, though :p Probably best to email/mudmail me about issues like that in future, though - I'm more likely to read it than a note on the main page (which I won't ever see if the recent changes page - and thus its RSS feed - is broken :( ). Fixed now, anyway! :D
:--[[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 11:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== prebox template! ==

{{Prebox | I ganked this thing from Chat [http://discworld.imaginary-realities.com/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Quoting_text_from_the_MUD over here]--it's a lot less ugly than inserting your own line breaks everywhere. Brilliant solution IMO. *goes off to change pages with quoted text which she's sure she remembers seeing*}}

--[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 00:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

PS: Non-paragraph line breaks need to be inserted for the most part. Also, I'm only bothering when the quotes include long lines. :p --[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 00:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

== The other wiki ==

I've seen noises about merging this wiki into [http://discworld.imaginary-realities.com/wiki]. Good idea? Bad idea? It would be a largish undertaking to move all the pages over, but I'd be willing to help with that. (I could do all the ritual pages semi-efficiently, and they're the bulk of the site.) --[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 22:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:Hum, wouldn't it be an better idea with a larger degree of cooperation instead? Some sort of partial merge.. In the english wikipedia you can use links to other wikies in other languages and things like that without working with the whole url adress like the one you use. If the two wikies would link to eachother where their own field of interest stoped.. well, could be usefull I think. If it is even possible.. It would mean that priests would still have controll over the priests parts and so one.. Then again.. if you're willing to do all the hard work required it would be nice with a proper wiki for everything in this game. And also we know that a merge do work. Hum, I donno what the rest of you think, but that's what I feel.. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 18:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Major Shield

2008-12-07T11:56:31Z

Oshnugimo:

-----Requirement to get the ritual-----
Something ain't right about it, my hatian priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Major Shield

2008-12-07T11:56:11Z

Oshnugimo:

-----Requirement to get the ritual-----
Something ain't right about it, my Hatian priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Major Shield

2008-12-06T21:42:17Z

Oshnugimo:

-----Requirement to get the ritual-----
Something ain't right about it, my priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Major Shield

2008-12-06T21:38:02Z

Oshnugimo:

-----Requirement to get the ritual-----
Something ain't right about it, my priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with wrong or questionable requirements listed. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Major Shield

2008-12-06T21:37:24Z

Oshnugimo:

-----Requirement to get the ritual-----
Something ain't right about it, my priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with wrong or questionable requirements listed. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Category talk:Rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information

2008-12-06T19:58:10Z

Oshnugimo: Removing all content from page

Major Shield

2008-12-06T19:57:14Z

Oshnugimo:

{{RitualInfoBox
| name=Major Shield
| gp=120
| learntat=79 in [[faith.rituals.defensive.target]][[Category:Rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information]]
| skills=[[faith.rituals.defensive.self]] or [[faith.rituals.defensive.target]]
| grantedby=[[Pishe]], [[Gufnork]], [[Gapp]], [[Sandelfon]], [[Fish]], [[Hat]] and [[Sek]]
| requirements=[[Holy symbol|Symbol]] and a shield
}}

Provides a powerful defensive shield

__TOC__

= Description =
Probably the most used ritual by priests. This ritual covers the target in a protective layer of shielding which soaks up damage. It is effectively a complete covering of armour which weighs nothing. Unfortunately it is not very good against specials, but can soak up a large amount of base round damage at high bonuses. It can also be extended by "stacking". For example casting the ritual once leads to a 2 minute duration, casting it 4 times in a row stacks it to an 8 minute duration. The duration of a major shield after a single perform seems to be equal to you bonus, in seconds. (360 bonus -> 6 minutes). It can be extended with minor shield, however this will weaken the major shield and is not recommended. It's better to use the stacking method as mentioned.

You need a shield to perform the ritual. The origami paper shield at 1/9lb is currently the lightest, but there is a penalty from using it in that your major shield will be harder to perform, weaker in strength and shorter in duration. A mounted pewter shield is the next lightest and does not have the same penalty. A "proper" shield, although heavier in weight (about 4lb for the lightest) confers a significant ritual bonus, making the ritual easier, stronger and longer lasting.
Other than the effects mentioned here, the type of shield has no effect whatsoever on the ritual.

Each deity has a different appearance of major shield, coming in at least 2 types depending on the strength.
* [[Pishe]]: Blanket of fog
* [[Gufnork]]: Layer of fluff
* [[Gapp]]: Translucent cloth robe
* [[Sandelfon]]: Wall of dust, Ethereal wall
* [[Fish]]: Slimy seaweed cloak
* [[Hat]]: Translucent feather
* [[Sek]]: Crackling flames, Bright crimson flames

If you have a magical impact shield, that will always absorb hits first, with the major shield only having any effect after it has been destroyed.

= Help File =

Major Shield will place a protective shield around you that acts as a layer of armour against blows. It provides significantly more protection than the Minor Shield ritual. You'll need a holy symbol consecrated to your god and a shield to perform this ritual.

= Example =
> perform major shield on me
You speak a short prayer.
You call upon Fish to protect yourself.
You are protected by the power of Fish.

= Granted By =
[[Pishe]], [[Gufnork]], [[Gapp]], [[Sandelfon]], [[Fish]], [[Hat]] and [[Sek]]

= Learnt At =
[[faith.rituals.defensive.target]] level 79

= Skills Used =
[[faith.rituals.defensive.self]] or [[faith.rituals.defensive.target]]

= Base GP Cost =
120 GP

= Requirements =
[[Holy symbol]] and a shield

= [[Meditate]] =
{{MeditateBox
| type=d
| steps=2
| target=Others, Self
| components=[[Holy symbol]], Shield
| powers=Speech
| resist=n
}}

[[Category:Pishe Rituals]]
[[Category:Gufnork Rituals]]
[[Category:Gapp Rituals]]
[[Category:Sandelfon Rituals]]
[[Category:Fish Rituals]]
[[Category:Hat Rituals]]
[[Category:Sek Rituals]]
[[Category:Rituals]]

Category talk:Rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information

2008-12-06T19:53:26Z

Oshnugimo:

====Rituals to add:====
:*Add [[Major Shield]]... [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Category talk:Rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information

2008-12-06T19:53:01Z

Oshnugimo:

====Rituals to add====
:Add [[Major Shield]]... [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Category talk:Rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information

2008-12-06T19:51:34Z

Oshnugimo: New page: -----Rituals that need to be added here----- :Add Major Shield... ~~~~

-----Rituals that need to be added here-----
:Add [[Major Shield]]... [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Major Shield

2008-12-06T19:42:20Z

Oshnugimo: New page: -----Requirement to get the ritual----- Something ain't right about it, my priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual.. So either the info is plai...

Category talk:Rituals

2008-11-29T20:18:33Z

Oshnugimo: New page: =====Subcategories?===== Hum, later one we could perhaps add a subcategory for offencive rituals, defencive rituals and so one giving people an idea about what rituals do what without chec...

=====Subcategories?=====
Hum, later one we could perhaps add a subcategory for offencive rituals, defencive rituals and so one giving people an idea about what rituals do what without checking the induvidual rituals.. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 20:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

=====Editing=====
I recomend having a look at [[Help:Formatting]] and [[help:Editing]] when adding stuff here ^^ [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 20:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)