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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sektite: Created page with &amp;quot;=Rituals and requirements= {|class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;  !Name  !Gear  !Skill  |-  |Blight  |Symbol, Amulet  |of.target  |-  |Clarify  |Book  |mi.target  |}&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Sektite</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Remember_Place</id>
		<title>Talk:Remember Place</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sektite: /* Remember Removal */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= Remember Place bonus vs weight =&lt;br /&gt;
What fa.ri.mi.ta bonus is AT LEAST required for which weight (add about 50 bonus to increase success rate):&lt;br /&gt;
*0.1 gram requires 500 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*0.2 gram requires 497 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*0.5 gram requires 476 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*  1 gram requires 447 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*  2 gram requires 408 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*  3 gram requires 380 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*  5 gram requires 340 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
*  8 gram requires 298 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
* 12 gram requires 257 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 gram requires 213 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
* 27 gram requires 165 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
* 41 gram requires 112 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
* 50 gram requires  85 fa.ri.mi.ta bonus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Charm weights: obsidian 3, emerald 3.5, diamond: 4.25, ruby 4.5, sapphire 4.5, bronze 4.75, brass 4.85, copper 4.9, silver 5, gold 8, platinum 10 grams&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ring weights: gold 10, silver 6, copper 5, bronze 5, brass 5 (research of Shenandoah)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This info is from &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;refer juppie&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Remember Removal =&lt;br /&gt;
Re-consecrating an item no longer removes the location it remembers.  You have to use &amp;quot;scour places from &amp;lt;object&amp;gt;&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 13:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oops! Does it show that I'm a clueless oldbie who's hopelessly out of touch with the modern priesthood?&lt;br /&gt;
:I remember the Good Olde Days when everything was possible... [[User:LaoTzu|LaoTzu]] 10:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::A little ;)  This way is Better, though: &amp;quot;scour&amp;quot; lets you remove '''exactly''' what you want (remembered location, imbued ritual or wards) rather than anything and everything, as &amp;quot;consecrate&amp;quot; did.  Consecrate still seems to be bugged, though, and quite happily uses 50 GP to give you an error message saying that the item is already consecrated :P -- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 13:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sektite</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield</id>
		<title>Talk:Major Shield</title>
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				<updated>2013-01-04T08:48:09Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sektite: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;-----Requirement to get the ritual-----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the moment I have these skills, and have not been taught. Going to advance fa.ri.de.self now.&lt;br /&gt;
 =======SKILLS=======Level/Bonus================================================= &lt;br /&gt;
 faith...............   62  172          | | | area..........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
 | rituals...........   76  179          | | | self..........  191  263&lt;br /&gt;
 | | defensive.......   81  202          | | | target........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Update:&lt;br /&gt;
 You advance your skill in faith.rituals.defensive.target from 78 to 79 for 3406 xp and 42p.&lt;br /&gt;
 The religious instructor teaches you the details of major shield.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 =======SKILLS=======Level/Bonus=================================================&lt;br /&gt;
 faith...............   63  172          | | | area..........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
 | rituals...........   80  181          | | | self..........  191  263&lt;br /&gt;
 | | defensive.......   98  212          | | | target........   79  201&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Sektite|Sektite]] 07:24, 4 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Something ain't right about it, my hatian priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..&lt;br /&gt;
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sounds like you're the perfect person to do the research yourself! It's not that hard: try advancing fa.ri.de.se a bit further (one level at a time, leave and re-enter the vestry after each level) to see if that one has impact; once that one is at the same level as fa.ri.de.ta, try advancing both a bit until you gain the ritual. Then post your findings here as a comment/addition to the page. Good luck! [[User:LaoTzu|LaoTzu]] 15:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm a Hat priest, and I just did what LaoTzu suggested.  I had 105 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.self and about 75 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target before I started.  I advanced faith.rituals.defensive.target one level at a time, going in and out in between, and the instructor finally taught me major shield once I had 101 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target. [[User:Neva|Neva]] 18:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Sek priest first raised faith.rituals.defensive.self until faith.rituals.defensive was 79 (with 43 faith.rituals.defense.area and 50ish faith.rituals.defense.target), but did not get the ritual. After that raising faith.rituals.defensive.target to 79 did give the ritual. [[User:Rigrig|Rigrig]] 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Gufnork priest. Had .se at 105 and .ar at 60 learned when advancing .ta from 78 to 79. It appears that Major shield is learned at fa.ri.de.ta 79 and may also require fa.ri.de or fa.ri.de.se to be at a certain level&lt;br /&gt;
:oh historical note, major shield originally was not granted to 2 gods, i think pishe or sek from memory, hence the different learn at levels for different gods. -inige&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recently learned the Ritual gufnorkian priest. I pushed Fa.ri.de.ta to 79 and was taught the ritual before then i have 79 in the base of the defense branch through high de.se It would appear for Gufnorkians we learn it at fa.ri.de.ta level 79 [[User:Garran|Garran]] 21:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==========================================&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  It seems  a couple of the rits now demand that the base level of the skill be raised to the amount noted, as well as, the sub skill.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 Example:   I got fa.rit.def.tar to 79  and did not get taught the ritual, so I went out and raised my other two skills ( focusing on fa.rit.def.self mostly) until the base skill fa.rit.def hit 79 (fa.rit.def.se was in the low 90's at this time) and I was taught it. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was tested by slowly gainging exp in the market of oc and running back to raise skills slowly and walking back and forth through the teachers door, so I'm fairly certain this is whats going on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This also held true for dust devil.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Required bonus ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At 238 bonus in fa.ri.de.se i succeed most of the time. Feel free to add your own findings so we can find a bonus at which it always works. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 13:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At a fa.ri.de.se bonus of 261 i seem to nearly always succeed in shielding myself with major shield. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 15:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With a bonus of 246 in faith.rituals.defensive.target I get about 50% success rate performing Major Shield on other people. --[[User:Brint|Brint]] 21:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sektite</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield</id>
		<title>Talk:Major Shield</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield"/>
				<updated>2013-01-04T08:47:25Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sektite: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;-----Requirement to get the ritual-----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the moment I have these skills, and have not been taught. Going to advance fa.ri.de.self now.&lt;br /&gt;
 =======SKILLS=======Level/Bonus================================================= &lt;br /&gt;
 faith...............   62  172          | | | area..........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
 | rituals...........   76  179          | | | self..........  191  263&lt;br /&gt;
 | | defensive.......   81  202          | | | target........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Update:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 You advance your skill in faith.rituals.defensive.target from 78 to 79 for 3406 xp and 42p.&lt;br /&gt;
 The religious instructor teaches you the details of major shield.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Sektite|Sektite]] 07:24, 4 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something ain't right about it, my hatian priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..&lt;br /&gt;
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sounds like you're the perfect person to do the research yourself! It's not that hard: try advancing fa.ri.de.se a bit further (one level at a time, leave and re-enter the vestry after each level) to see if that one has impact; once that one is at the same level as fa.ri.de.ta, try advancing both a bit until you gain the ritual. Then post your findings here as a comment/addition to the page. Good luck! [[User:LaoTzu|LaoTzu]] 15:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm a Hat priest, and I just did what LaoTzu suggested.  I had 105 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.self and about 75 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target before I started.  I advanced faith.rituals.defensive.target one level at a time, going in and out in between, and the instructor finally taught me major shield once I had 101 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target. [[User:Neva|Neva]] 18:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Sek priest first raised faith.rituals.defensive.self until faith.rituals.defensive was 79 (with 43 faith.rituals.defense.area and 50ish faith.rituals.defense.target), but did not get the ritual. After that raising faith.rituals.defensive.target to 79 did give the ritual. [[User:Rigrig|Rigrig]] 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Gufnork priest. Had .se at 105 and .ar at 60 learned when advancing .ta from 78 to 79. It appears that Major shield is learned at fa.ri.de.ta 79 and may also require fa.ri.de or fa.ri.de.se to be at a certain level&lt;br /&gt;
:oh historical note, major shield originally was not granted to 2 gods, i think pishe or sek from memory, hence the different learn at levels for different gods. -inige&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recently learned the Ritual gufnorkian priest. I pushed Fa.ri.de.ta to 79 and was taught the ritual before then i have 79 in the base of the defense branch through high de.se It would appear for Gufnorkians we learn it at fa.ri.de.ta level 79 [[User:Garran|Garran]] 21:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==========================================&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  It seems  a couple of the rits now demand that the base level of the skill be raised to the amount noted, as well as, the sub skill.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 Example:   I got fa.rit.def.tar to 79  and did not get taught the ritual, so I went out and raised my other two skills ( focusing on fa.rit.def.self mostly) until the base skill fa.rit.def hit 79 (fa.rit.def.se was in the low 90's at this time) and I was taught it. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was tested by slowly gainging exp in the market of oc and running back to raise skills slowly and walking back and forth through the teachers door, so I'm fairly certain this is whats going on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This also held true for dust devil.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Required bonus ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At 238 bonus in fa.ri.de.se i succeed most of the time. Feel free to add your own findings so we can find a bonus at which it always works. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 13:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At a fa.ri.de.se bonus of 261 i seem to nearly always succeed in shielding myself with major shield. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 15:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With a bonus of 246 in faith.rituals.defensive.target I get about 50% success rate performing Major Shield on other people. --[[User:Brint|Brint]] 21:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sektite</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield</id>
		<title>Talk:Major Shield</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield"/>
				<updated>2013-01-04T07:24:25Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sektite: Forgot the friggin' skills...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;-----Requirement to get the ritual-----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the moment I have these skills, and have not been taught. Going to advance fa.ri.de.self now.&lt;br /&gt;
 =======SKILLS=======Level/Bonus================================================= &lt;br /&gt;
 faith...............   62  172          | | | area..........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
 | rituals...........   76  179          | | | self..........  191  263&lt;br /&gt;
 | | defensive.......   81  202          | | | target........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Sektite|Sektite]] 07:24, 4 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something ain't right about it, my hatian priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..&lt;br /&gt;
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sounds like you're the perfect person to do the research yourself! It's not that hard: try advancing fa.ri.de.se a bit further (one level at a time, leave and re-enter the vestry after each level) to see if that one has impact; once that one is at the same level as fa.ri.de.ta, try advancing both a bit until you gain the ritual. Then post your findings here as a comment/addition to the page. Good luck! [[User:LaoTzu|LaoTzu]] 15:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm a Hat priest, and I just did what LaoTzu suggested.  I had 105 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.self and about 75 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target before I started.  I advanced faith.rituals.defensive.target one level at a time, going in and out in between, and the instructor finally taught me major shield once I had 101 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target. [[User:Neva|Neva]] 18:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Sek priest first raised faith.rituals.defensive.self until faith.rituals.defensive was 79 (with 43 faith.rituals.defense.area and 50ish faith.rituals.defense.target), but did not get the ritual. After that raising faith.rituals.defensive.target to 79 did give the ritual. [[User:Rigrig|Rigrig]] 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Gufnork priest. Had .se at 105 and .ar at 60 learned when advancing .ta from 78 to 79. It appears that Major shield is learned at fa.ri.de.ta 79 and may also require fa.ri.de or fa.ri.de.se to be at a certain level&lt;br /&gt;
:oh historical note, major shield originally was not granted to 2 gods, i think pishe or sek from memory, hence the different learn at levels for different gods. -inige&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recently learned the Ritual gufnorkian priest. I pushed Fa.ri.de.ta to 79 and was taught the ritual before then i have 79 in the base of the defense branch through high de.se It would appear for Gufnorkians we learn it at fa.ri.de.ta level 79 [[User:Garran|Garran]] 21:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==========================================&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  It seems  a couple of the rits now demand that the base level of the skill be raised to the amount noted, as well as, the sub skill.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 Example:   I got fa.rit.def.tar to 79  and did not get taught the ritual, so I went out and raised my other two skills ( focusing on fa.rit.def.self mostly) until the base skill fa.rit.def hit 79 (fa.rit.def.se was in the low 90's at this time) and I was taught it. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was tested by slowly gainging exp in the market of oc and running back to raise skills slowly and walking back and forth through the teachers door, so I'm fairly certain this is whats going on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This also held true for dust devil.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Required bonus ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At 238 bonus in fa.ri.de.se i succeed most of the time. Feel free to add your own findings so we can find a bonus at which it always works. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 13:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At a fa.ri.de.se bonus of 261 i seem to nearly always succeed in shielding myself with major shield. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 15:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With a bonus of 246 in faith.rituals.defensive.target I get about 50% success rate performing Major Shield on other people. --[[User:Brint|Brint]] 21:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sektite</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield</id>
		<title>Talk:Major Shield</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.dwpriests.com/wiki/Talk:Major_Shield"/>
				<updated>2013-01-04T07:23:31Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sektite: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;-----Requirement to get the ritual-----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the moment I have these skills, and have not been taught. Going to advance fa.ri.de.self now.&lt;br /&gt;
 faith...............   62  172          | | defensive.......   81  202&lt;br /&gt;
 | rituals...........   76  179          | | | target........   26  129&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Sektite|Sektite]] 07:23, 4 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something ain't right about it, my hatian priest alt had 80 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target and didn't get the ritual..&lt;br /&gt;
So either the info is plain wrong to start with, I find that unlikly thou, it could be dated as the game changes all the time, or it could be right and there's a but in the game.. I belive that it's the most likly that option two is correct, so it would be nice if somone could figure out what level IS required to get the ritual. [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*I've added this ritual to the list of rituals with conflicting or dubious learnt at information [[User:Oshnugimo|Oshnugimo]] 21:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds like you're the perfect person to do the research yourself! It's not that hard: try advancing fa.ri.de.se a bit further (one level at a time, leave and re-enter the vestry after each level) to see if that one has impact; once that one is at the same level as fa.ri.de.ta, try advancing both a bit until you gain the ritual. Then post your findings here as a comment/addition to the page. Good luck! [[User:LaoTzu|LaoTzu]] 15:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm a Hat priest, and I just did what LaoTzu suggested.  I had 105 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.self and about 75 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target before I started.  I advanced faith.rituals.defensive.target one level at a time, going in and out in between, and the instructor finally taught me major shield once I had 101 levels of faith.rituals.defensive.target. [[User:Neva|Neva]] 18:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sek priest first raised faith.rituals.defensive.self until faith.rituals.defensive was 79 (with 43 faith.rituals.defense.area and 50ish faith.rituals.defense.target), but did not get the ritual. After that raising faith.rituals.defensive.target to 79 did give the ritual. [[User:Rigrig|Rigrig]] 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Gufnork priest. Had .se at 105 and .ar at 60 learned when advancing .ta from 78 to 79. It appears that Major shield is learned at fa.ri.de.ta 79 and may also require fa.ri.de or fa.ri.de.se to be at a certain level&lt;br /&gt;
:oh historical note, major shield originally was not granted to 2 gods, i think pishe or sek from memory, hence the different learn at levels for different gods. -inige&lt;br /&gt;
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I recently learned the Ritual gufnorkian priest. I pushed Fa.ri.de.ta to 79 and was taught the ritual before then i have 79 in the base of the defense branch through high de.se It would appear for Gufnorkians we learn it at fa.ri.de.ta level 79 [[User:Garran|Garran]] 21:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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  It seems  a couple of the rits now demand that the base level of the skill be raised to the amount noted, as well as, the sub skill.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Example:   I got fa.rit.def.tar to 79  and did not get taught the ritual, so I went out and raised my other two skills ( focusing on fa.rit.def.self mostly) until the base skill fa.rit.def hit 79 (fa.rit.def.se was in the low 90's at this time) and I was taught it. &lt;br /&gt;
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This was tested by slowly gainging exp in the market of oc and running back to raise skills slowly and walking back and forth through the teachers door, so I'm fairly certain this is whats going on.&lt;br /&gt;
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This also held true for dust devil.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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At 238 bonus in fa.ri.de.se i succeed most of the time. Feel free to add your own findings so we can find a bonus at which it always works. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 13:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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At a fa.ri.de.se bonus of 261 i seem to nearly always succeed in shielding myself with major shield. [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 15:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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With a bonus of 246 in faith.rituals.defensive.target I get about 50% success rate performing Major Shield on other people. --[[User:Brint|Brint]] 21:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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