Talk:Prayer beads - Revision history

Scouter: /* symbol/amulet replacement and invocations */

2011-07-24T19:15:31Z

‎symbol/amulet replacement and invocations

Scouter: /* symbol/amulet replacement and invocations */ new section

2011-07-24T18:59:17Z

‎symbol/amulet replacement and invocations: new section

Sorekara: /* Relic Replacement */

2010-09-29T08:06:06Z

‎Relic Replacement

Ilde: /* Relic Replacement */

2010-07-16T00:42:26Z

‎Relic Replacement

Marcus: /* Relic Replacement */

2010-07-15T21:24:58Z

‎Relic Replacement

Marcus: /* Relic Replacement */

2010-07-15T21:24:17Z

‎Relic Replacement

Marcus: /* Relic Replacement */

2010-07-15T21:23:57Z

‎Relic Replacement

Rigrig: /* Relic replacement */

2010-01-20T16:26:38Z

‎Relic replacement

Aell: /* Moving and clicking */

2009-03-11T17:35:29Z

‎Moving and clicking

Mishal: /* Moving and clicking */

2008-11-12T17:57:55Z

‎Moving and clicking

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 I charged one set to "symbol" using prayers, and one using artefact inquisition. I think the different results when praying are due to getting the "You find yourself slightly distracted from your prayers." message. Fa.ri.sp of 247. I've updated the wiki with these results. (I might test up to "relic" later).
-artefact inquisition
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
-#	gp	beads					replacing
+|+ artefact inquisition
-	20	pale, flickering	occasional
+|-
-	320	weakly flickering	occasional
+!number !! gp !! beads !! !! replacing
-	1020	flickering		few
+|-
-	2020	unsteady		few
+|1 || 20 || pale, flickering || occasional ||
-	5020	faint			handful
+|-
-	8020	pale			handful		amulet
+|16 || 320 || weakly flickering || occasional ||
-	10500	"			"		symbol
+|-
-	(didn't check between 500 and 525)
+|51 || 1020 || flickering || few ||
-praying with 300 gp (and getting "you suck!" messages)
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
-#	gp	beads					replacing
+|+ praying with 300 gp
-	300	pale, flickering	occasional
+|-
-	600	weakly flickering	occasional
+!number !! gp !! beads !! !! replacing
-	1200	flickering		few
+|-
-	2400	unsteady		few
+|1 || 300 || pale, flickering || occasional ||
-	5400	faint			handful
+|-
-	9000	pale			handful		amulet
+|2 || 600 || weakly flickering || occasional ||
-	11400	"			"		symbol
+|-

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	I don't know about relic replacement, but I have a set of beads at pale that don't act as a symbol replacement. I don't know what happened, but maybe the exact requirements have changed? [[User:Sorekara\|Sorekara]] 08:06, 29 September 2010 (UTC)		I don't know about relic replacement, but I have a set of beads at pale that don't act as a symbol replacement. I don't know what happened, but maybe the exact requirements have changed? [[User:Sorekara\|Sorekara]] 08:06, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== symbol/amulet replacement and invocations ==
		+
		+	I know before I've suggested that "symbol replacement" and the likes might be linked to "number of invocations". After reading about Ilde's tests, I did some for my own. The "invocation" part in the beads description appears to be determined only by total gp spent.
		+	I charged one set to "symbol" using prayers, and one using artefact inquisition. I think the different results when praying are due to getting the "You find yourself slightly distracted from your prayers." message. Fa.ri.sp of 247. I've updated the wiki with these results. (I might test up to "relic" later).
		+
		+	artefact inquisition
		+	# gp beads replacing
		+	1 20 pale, flickering occasional
		+	16 320 weakly flickering occasional
		+	51 1020 flickering few
		+	101 2020 unsteady few
		+	251 5020 faint handful
		+	401 8020 pale handful amulet
		+	525 10500 " " symbol
		+	(didn't check between 500 and 525)
		+
		+	praying with 300 gp (and getting "you suck!" messages)
		+	# gp beads replacing
		+	1 300 pale, flickering occasional
		+	2 600 weakly flickering occasional
		+	4 1200 flickering few
		+	8 2400 unsteady few
		+	18 5400 faint handful
		+	30 9000 pale handful amulet
		+	38 11400 " " symbol

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	:--[[User:Ilde\|Ilde]] 00:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)		:--[[User:Ilde\|Ilde]] 00:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
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		+	I don't know about relic replacement, but I have a set of beads at pale that don't act as a symbol replacement. I don't know what happened, but maybe the exact requirements have changed? [[User:Sorekara\|Sorekara]] 08:06, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

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	(was unable to find anyone who could meditate on them for a better result)<br>		(was unable to find anyone who could meditate on them for a better result)<br>
	[[User:Marcus\|Marcus]] 21:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)		[[User:Marcus\|Marcus]] 21:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:On a similar note: I started charging a new set of standard beads (through one consecration, then praying after that), and they started acting as a holy amulet replacement during the "pale" or "faint" stage (it was pale when I found that they replaced an amulet, but I hadn't checked since "faint", so it could have turned during either). They started acting as a symbol replacement a little later, still during "pale".
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		+	:Then I tried charging another set using only rituals, with the same result. (I started with a bunch of performances of Demoralise, which is only 10 gp.) So the replacement thing seems to depend on gp, not number of performances, and praying vs. doing rituals doesn't seem to make a difference.
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		+	:--[[User:Ilde\|Ilde]] 00:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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 I have a set that replaces a relic at a strong aura:
-This is a string of prayer beads; twenty-seven perfect obsidian spheres threaded onto a blood-red cord.  The surface of each bead is etched with an intricate runic character, representing prayers and meditations dedicated to Sek.
+This is a string of prayer beads; twenty-seven perfect obsidian spheres threaded onto a blood-red cord.  The surface of each bead is etched with an intricate runic character, representing prayers and meditations dedicated to Sek.<br>
-None of the beads have been moved around the circle.
+None of the beads have been moved around the circle.<br>
-The set of prayer beads beats regularly with blood-red pulses of light.
+The set of prayer beads beats regularly with blood-red pulses of light.<br>
 It is surrounded by a strong holy aura instilled by the numerous invocations it has been involved in.

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 In meditating over the set of prayer beads, you manage to gain some insight about it. It is consecrated to Seven-Handed Sek. It is a holy relic of Sek.
-(was unable to find anyone who could meditate on them for a better result)
+(was unable to find anyone who could meditate on them for a better result)<br>
 [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] 21:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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	Just beneath the surface, you can make out what looks like a pair of glittering eyes.<br>		Just beneath the surface, you can make out what looks like a pair of glittering eyes.<br>
	--[[User:Rigrig\|Rigrig]] 16:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)		--[[User:Rigrig\|Rigrig]] 16:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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		+	I have a set that replaces a relic at a strong aura:
		+
		+	This is a string of prayer beads; twenty-seven perfect obsidian spheres threaded onto a blood-red cord. The surface of each bead is etched with an intricate runic character, representing prayers and meditations dedicated to Sek.
		+	None of the beads have been moved around the circle.
		+	The set of prayer beads beats regularly with blood-red pulses of light.
		+	It is surrounded by a strong holy aura instilled by the numerous invocations it has been involved in.
		+
		+	In meditating over the set of prayer beads, you manage to gain some insight about it. It is consecrated to Seven-Handed Sek. It is a holy relic of Sek.
		+	(was unable to find anyone who could meditate on them for a better result)
		+	[[User:Marcus\|Marcus]] 21:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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	:That's all I have :P -- [[User:Mishal\|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 17:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)		:That's all I have :P -- [[User:Mishal\|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 17:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
	::Has anyone tried confirming this with [[Confirming skill use through mocking\|mock]]? --[[User:Aell\|Aell]] ([[User talk:Aell\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=aell MUD finger]) 17:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)		::Has anyone tried confirming this with [[Confirming skill use through mocking\|mock]]? --[[User:Aell\|Aell]] ([[User talk:Aell\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=aell MUD finger]) 17:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==Relic Replacement==
		+	From the wiki it looks like the beads will act as relic replacement when they are charged to +2 wisdom, but I've got a set that already works as relic while at the bright stage:<br><br>
		+	In meditating over the set of prayer beads, you manage to gain some insight about it. It is consecrated to Seven-Handed Sek,
		+	and remembering The High Altar of Sek for you. It is a holy relic of Sek, a holy symbol, a holy amulet and a set of prayer
		+	beads.<br><br>
		+	This is a string of prayer beads; twenty-seven perfect obsidian spheres threaded onto a blood-red cord. The surface of each
		+	bead is etched with an intricate runic character, representing prayers and meditations dedicated to Sek.
		+	None of the beads have been moved around the circle.<br>
		+	The set of prayer beads beats regularly with blood-red pulses of light.<br>
		+	It is surrounded by a bright holy aura instilled by the numerous invocations it has been involved in.<br>
		+	Just beneath the surface, you can make out what looks like a pair of glittering eyes.<br>
		+	--[[User:Rigrig\|Rigrig]] 16:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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	:<code>(Priests) Sorin wisps: Clicking beads seems to take ra.ri.sp into account some how, right?<br>(Priests) Scouter wisps: probably</code>		:<code>(Priests) Sorin wisps: Clicking beads seems to take ra.ri.sp into account some how, right?<br>(Priests) Scouter wisps: probably</code>
	:That's all I have :P -- [[User:Mishal\|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 17:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)		:That's all I have :P -- [[User:Mishal\|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 17:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
		+	::Has anyone tried confirming this with [[Confirming skill use through mocking\|mock]]? --[[User:Aell\|Aell]] ([[User talk:Aell\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=aell MUD finger]) 17:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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	==Moving and clicking==		==Moving and clicking==
	Could someone please confirm the faith.rituals.special check when moving/clicking? --[[User:LaoTzu\|LaoTzu]] 14:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)		Could someone please confirm the faith.rituals.special check when moving/clicking? --[[User:LaoTzu\|LaoTzu]] 14:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
		+	:<code>(Priests) Sorin wisps: Clicking beads seems to take ra.ri.sp into account some how, right?<br>(Priests) Scouter wisps: probably</code>
		+	:That's all I have :P -- [[User:Mishal\|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal\|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 17:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)