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Tonyogrey at 11:31, 8 February 2010

2010-02-08T11:31:39Z

Tony: /* Theory 1 */

2009-07-08T13:23:33Z

‎Theory 1

Tony: /* Conclusions, or end theories */

2009-07-08T13:22:06Z

‎Conclusions, or end theories

Tony: /* Theory 1 */

2009-07-08T13:21:32Z

‎Theory 1

Tony: /* Theory 1 */

2009-07-08T13:21:21Z

‎Theory 1

Tony: /* Conclusions, or end theories */

2009-07-08T10:44:05Z

‎Conclusions, or end theories

Tony: /* Theory 1 */

2009-07-08T10:34:30Z

‎Theory 1

Tony: /* Conclusions, or end theories */

2009-07-08T10:33:00Z

‎Conclusions, or end theories

Tony: /* Fumble (120 GP into a coral baton) */

2009-07-08T10:03:52Z

‎Fumble (120 GP into a coral baton)

Tony: /* Current Faith Rod Research */

2009-07-08T10:03:15Z

‎Current Faith Rod Research

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 == Rod charging table template ==

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 Could it be Bestow cost * 620?
-* Endless Halls (200 to perform, 110 to bestow, 62,000 to imprint)
+* Endless Halls (200 to perform, '''110''' to bestow, 62,000 to imprint)
-** 62,000/620 = 100
+** 62,000/620 = '''100'''
-* Detect Alignment (10 to perform, 30 to bestow, 19,000 to imprint)
+* Detect Alignment (10 to perform, '''30''' to bestow, 19,000 to imprint)
-** 19,000/620 = 30.6
+** 19,000/620 = '''30.6'''
-* Fumble (120 to perform, 120 to bestow, 76,000 to imprint)
+* Fumble (120 to perform, '''120''' to bestow, 76,000 to imprint)
-** 76,000/620 = 122
+** 76,000/620 = '''122'''
 The 620 value is most likely to be the one that is modified by your fa.it.rod bonus. So tests at different bonuses may reveal more.

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 === Conclusions, or end theories ===
-I currently have two theories:
+Currently, I have two theories:
-# (62% of Cost to bestow) * 1000 - otherwise stated as ~ 600 * bestow cost
+# Cost to bestow * 620
 # Base + (Ritual cost * Multiplier)
 Theory 1 looks most promising as it's the simplest (Occam's razor). There is also a modifier for your bonus in fa.it.rod which makes it cost less to charge with higher bonuses.
-'''62% is my value for a 250 fa.it.rod bonus'''
+'''620 is my value for a 250 fa.it.rod bonus'''
 See below for my calculations, theories, random waffle and data.

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 === Theory 1 ===
-Could it be Bestow cost) * 620?
+Could it be Bestow cost * 620?
 * Endless Halls (200 to perform, 110 to bestow, 62,000 to imprint)

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 === Theory 1 ===
-Could it be (62% of Bestow cost) * 1,000?
+Could it be Bestow cost) * 620?
 * Endless Halls (200 to perform, 110 to bestow, 62,000 to imprint)
-** (62,000/1000)/0.62 = 100
+** 62,000/620 = 100
 * Detect Alignment (10 to perform, 30 to bestow, 19,000 to imprint)
-** (19,000/1000)/0.62 = 30.6
+** 19,000/620 = 30.6
 * Fumble (120 to perform, 120 to bestow, 76,000 to imprint)
-** (76,000/1000)/0.62 = 122
+** 76,000/620 = 122
-The 62% value is most likely to be the one that is modified by your fa.it.rod bonus. So tests at different bonuses may reveal more.
+The 620 value is most likely to be the one that is modified by your fa.it.rod bonus. So tests at different bonuses may reveal more.
 This works out at roughly (30 * Bestow cost) per stage, with impressed stages being counted as two stages. This is because there are 6 imbued stages, and 7 impressed, which works out at the equivalent of 20 imbued stages.
 === Theory 2 ===

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	The 62% value is most likely to be the one that is modified by your fa.it.rod bonus. So tests at different bonuses may reveal more.		The 62% value is most likely to be the one that is modified by your fa.it.rod bonus. So tests at different bonuses may reveal more.
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		+	This works out at roughly (30 * Bestow cost) per stage, with impressed stages being counted as two stages. This is because there are 6 imbued stages, and 7 impressed, which works out at the equivalent of 20 imbued stages.

	=== Theory 2 ===		=== Theory 2 ===

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 '''Ok, maybe not...'''
-==== Fumble (120 GP into a coral baton) ====
+==== Fumble into a coral baton (off aff) ====
 * 120 GP to perform

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-= Current Faith Rod Research =
+== Faith Rod Research ==
 So far, I have worked out that there are three constants involved in the charging process, and it looks like this:
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 Based on this, if would take 9.5 hours of constant prayer at 4 GP regen to imprint the Resurrect ritual.
-''This research isn't finished yet, though, I'll need to imprint a couple more rods of different ritual sizes to pin down the real value of these constants. I should say now that all prayers were successful, so this research doesn't take account of failed, or partial prayer.''
+==== Calculations ====
-−
-== Ongoing theories ==
 '''All prayers were 350 GP, so the GP totals could be off by up to 350 GP.'''
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 Additionally, the Softly pulsing stage appears to be treated the same as the impressed stages overall, although the artifact only becomes impressed 80-90% through this stage.
-=== New theory? ===
+=== The charging tables ===
-Could it be (62% of Bestow cost) * 1,000?
+The following tables detail my research into one large and one small ritual, calculating the GP costs throughout the charging process, the accuracy of these readings could be affected by variables out of my control, such as the Disc's randomness affecting figures. We all know they love to flick the dice now and then :D
-−
-* Endless Halls (200 to perform, 110 to bestow, 62,000 to imprint)
-** (62,000/1000)/0.62 = 100
-* Detect Alignment (10 to perform, 30 to bestow, 19,000 to imprint)
-** (19,000/1000)/0.62 = 30.6
-* Fumble (120 to perform, 120 to bestow, 76,000 to imprint)
-** (76,000/1000)/0.62 = 122
-−
-The 62% value is most likely to be the one that is modified by your fa.it.rod bonus. So tests at different bonuses may reveal more.
-−
-== Still to test ==
-−
-* Imprint Detect Alignment again, but taking into account variance in results to generate an upper and lower bounds for the constants.
-* Imprint a ritual at around 100 GP
-* What percentage through the Softly pulsing stage does it impress?
-* Test different rod bonuses, first two stages of Detect Alignment should be enough, at bonuses of 150, 200, 250, 300, 350
-== My calculations and test results so far ==
+==== Endless Halls into a serrated baton (off aff) ====
-−
-The following tables detail my research into one large and one small ritual, calculating the GP costs throughout the charging process, the accuracy of these readings could be affected by variables out of my control, such as the Disc's randomness affecting figures. We all know they love to flick the dice now and then :D
-=== Endless Halls (200 GP) into a serrated baton (off aff) ===
+* 200 GP to perform
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 ''Much better!''
-=== Detect Alignment (10 GP) into ribboned baton (misc aff) ===
+==== Detect Alignment into ribboned baton (misc aff) ====
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 '''Ok, maybe not...'''
-== Fumble (120 GP into a coral baton) ==
+* 120 GP to perform
 This is starting to confuse matters, Fumble only costs 120 GP to perform, but is costing more to charge than Endless Halls (200 GP). The GP cost related to charging might actually be how much GP to '''bestow''', rather than perform.