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It seems that the multiplier is doubled for the impressed stages, or in other words, each impressed stage is worth two imbued stages. Dathed's initial research suggested that there was no base cost, so I decided to test the theory again the lowest cost ritual - Detect Alignment (10 GP). If there were no base cost, then you'd be able to imprint that in a couple of prayers.
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It seems that the multiplier is doubled for the impressed stages, or in other words, each impressed stage is worth two imbued stages. [[Datheds_Rod_Research|Dathed's initial research]] suggested that there was no base cost, so I decided to test the theory again the lowest cost ritual - Detect Alignment (10 GP). If there were no base cost, then you'd be able to imprint that in a couple of prayers.
  
 
Currently, I've narrowed the BASE down to somewhere around 800 GP per imbued stage, while the MULTIPLIER is between 10 and 15. Both these figures are doubled for impressed stages.
 
Currently, I've narrowed the BASE down to somewhere around 800 GP per imbued stage, while the MULTIPLIER is between 10 and 15. Both these figures are doubled for impressed stages.
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* What percentage through the Softly pulsing stage does it impress?
 
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== Endless Halls (200 GP) into a serrated baton (off aff) ==
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The following tables detail my research into one large and one small ritual, calculating the GP costs throughout the charging process, the accuracy of these readings could be affected by variables out of my control, such as the Disc's randomness affecting figures. We all know they love to flick the dice now and then :D
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''Much better!''
 
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Revision as of 21:04, 2 July 2009

Current Faith Rod Research

So far, I have worked out that there are three constants involved in the charging process, and it looks like this:

Base + (Ritual * Multiplier)

It seems that the multiplier is doubled for the impressed stages, or in other words, each impressed stage is worth two imbued stages. Dathed's initial research suggested that there was no base cost, so I decided to test the theory again the lowest cost ritual - Detect Alignment (10 GP). If there were no base cost, then you'd be able to imprint that in a couple of prayers.

Currently, I've narrowed the BASE down to somewhere around 800 GP per imbued stage, while the MULTIPLIER is between 10 and 15. Both these figures are doubled for impressed stages.

As a rough guide, the following formula should be about right to imprint a faith rod:

15,000 + (Ritual * 200)

So, a 40 GP ritual would require 23,000 GP in total, or the equivalent of 77 prayers at 300 GP each. That is just over 3 hours on a 4 GP regen, or just over 4 hours at a 3 GP regen.

Based on this, if would take 9.5 hours of constant prayer at 4 GP regen to imprint the Resurrect ritual.

This research isn't finished yet, though, I'll need to imprint a couple more rods of different ritual sizes to pin down the real value of these constants. I should say now that all prayers were successful, so this research doesn't take account of failed, or partial prayer.

Ongoing theories

All prayers were 350 GP, so the GP totals could be off by up to 350 GP.

"GP" = GP cost to perform ritual

My first guess was this:

  • First stage is 25% more than the other imbued stages
  • 750 + (GP * 12.5) for imbued stages
  • 1500 + (GP * 25) for impressed stages (or twice the imbued cost)

After 2 rituals, the numbers look more like this:

  • First stage is 25% more than the other imbued stages
  • 844 + (GP * 11.1) for imbued stages
  • 1688 + (GP * 22.2) for impressed stages (or twice the imbued cost)

Important to note: I believe only 90% of the prayer GP goes into the rod, whilst the other 10% is taken for Deity Points.

Additionally, the Softly pulsing stage appears to be treated the same as the impressed stages overall, although the artifact only becomes impressed 80-90% through this stage.

Still to test

  • What percentage through the Softly pulsing stage does it impress?

My calculations and test results so far

The following tables detail my research into one large and one small ritual, calculating the GP costs throughout the charging process, the accuracy of these readings could be affected by variables out of my control, such as the Disc's randomness affecting figures. We all know they love to flick the dice now and then :D

Endless Halls (200 GP) into a serrated baton (off aff)

Stage Prayer count GP Total
Barely visible 12.4* 4,350*
Faint 9.8* 3,450*
Dull 9.8* 3,450*
Pale 9.8* 3,410*
Dim 10 3,500
Moderate 10 3,500
Softly pulsing 19 6,650
Total up to impressed 80.8 25,160
Softly pulsing 2 700
Brightly pulsing 21 7,350
Bright 21 7,350
Strong 19 6,650
Brilliant 21 7,350
Dazzling 20 7,000
Radiant 18.3* 6,400*
Total up to imprinted 183.1 61,960

Breakdown of the calculations:

((200 * 12.5) + 750) * 0.25 = 813  (additional 25% for first stage)
((200 * 12.5) + 750) * 6 = 19,500  (6 imbued phases)
((200 * 25) + 1,500) * 7 = 45,500  (7 impressed phases)
813 + 19,500 + 45,500 = 65,813     (total all phases)
65,813 / 0.9 = 73,125              (adjusted up to account for 10% loss to DP)

Will the above table show a total of around 73,000?

The answer is no, the constants must be slighty off, second try:

((200 * 11.1) + 844) * 0.25 = 766  (additional 25% for first stage)
((200 * 11.1) + 844) * 6 = 18,384  (6 imbued phases)
((200 * 22.2) + 1688) * 7 = 43,106 (7 impressed phases)
766 + 18,384 + 43,106 =  62,256    (total all phases)
62,256 / 0.9 = 69,173              (adjusted up to account for 10% loss to DP)

Much better!

Detect Alignment (10 GP) into ribboned baton (misc aff)

Stage Prayer count GP Total Second (accurate) reading
Barely visible 4 1,400 1,233
Faint 3 1,050 1,044
Dull 2 700 1,040
Pale 3 1,050
Dim 2 700
Moderate 3 1,050
Softly pulsing 5 1,750
Total up to impressed 22 7,700
Softly pulsing 1 350
Brightly pulsing 5 1,750
Bright 6 2,100
Strong 5 1,750
Brilliant 6 2,100
Dazzling 6 2,100
Radiant 4.3* 1,500*
Total up to imprinted 55.3 19,350
* I stepped through prayers of 100 GP each to get a more accurate value here.

Breakdown of the calculations:

((10 * 12.5) + 750) * 0.2 = 219  (additional 25% for first stage)
((10 * 12.5) + 750) * 6 = 5,250  (6 imbued phases)
((10 * 25) + 1,500) * 7 = 12,250 (7 impressed phases)
219 + 5,250 + 12,250 = 17,719    (total all phases)
17,719 / 0.9 = 19,688            (adjusted up to account for 10% loss to DP)

That's pretty close to the 19,350 figure in the table above. Good data to support my calculations.

Round 2:

((10 * 11.1) + 844) * 0.25 = 239   (additional 25% for first stage)
((10 * 11.1) + 844) * 6 = 5,730    (6 imbued phases)
((10 * 22.2) + 1,688) * 7 = 13,370 (7 impressed phases)
239 + 5,730 + 13,370 = 19,339      (total all phases)
19,339 / 0.9 = 21,487              (adjusted up to account for 10% loss to DP)

Ok, maybe not...

Rod charging table template

Stage Prayer count GP Total
Barely visible
Faint
Dull
Pale
Dim
Moderate
Softly pulsing
Total up to impressed
Softly pulsing
Brightly pulsing
Bright
Strong
Brilliant
Dazzling
Radiant
Total up to imprinted