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:I wonder if templates can be used for individual table rows.  That would certainly make things easier.  Instead of putting the code for a full row in each page, we could just use, say, <code><nowiki>{{LearntAtTableRow | fa.ri.mi.ta=175}}</nowiki></code> and have the template take care of it all.  Would only work if templates get replaced in pages BEFORE tables get parsed, though.  This would also solve the problem of the messy code with colours...
 
:I wonder if templates can be used for individual table rows.  That would certainly make things easier.  Instead of putting the code for a full row in each page, we could just use, say, <code><nowiki>{{LearntAtTableRow | fa.ri.mi.ta=175}}</nowiki></code> and have the template take care of it all.  Would only work if templates get replaced in pages BEFORE tables get parsed, though.  This would also solve the problem of the messy code with colours...
 
:-- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 08:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 
:-- [[User:Mishal|Mishal]] ([[User talk:Mishal|talk]]) ([http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/secure/finger.c?player=mishal MUD finger]) 08:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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::Hmmm... true, but I think it would be easy enough to just copy from another row, since most of them ''are'' learned at a level of a subskill.  And we could always put a full, empty row somewhere as an example/thing to copy.  The template thing sounds cool, though... think that's doable?
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::--[[User:Ilde|Ilde]] 21:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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We're up and running! Fluffs to ourselves and mostly Mishal!

MUD IP Address

Because Wikipedia doesn't want the IP address posted, but it is useful to know (for strange situations in which DNS breaks), here it is: 82.68.167.69. Connecting to that will work in exactly the same way as connecting to discworld.atuin.net, even if DNS breaks!

Skill redirects

Currently, if you link to a skills, like faith.rituals.special, it redirects to Skills. However, I think it would be much more useful if each skill redirected to its own "what links here" page (Special:WhatLinksHere/Faith.rituals.special), since then if you clicked on a skill, you'd get a nice list of rituals and such that used that skill. As it is, it's not obvious how you find that (I assumed at first that "what links here" was for outside sites that linked to the wiki). (I think redirecting to the "what links here" page would be better than just editing each skill's page to list the rituals that use it, since then there'd be no need to edit those pages when we found another skill a ritual uses.)

If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and do this. It seems like a somewhat major change, though, so I'd like to get people's thoughts first.

--Ilde 11:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


That sounds like a good idea. I wonder if the What Links Here page can be included as a template or something... Not sure if that's possible. That way we could still link to the skills page at the same time and potentially add more information about each skill in future. Worth a try, anyway. I'd say go for it, when you can :) *hopes editing on his phone won't break things...* -- Mishal (talk) (MUD finger) 15:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Great! It's done; I went ahead and added links to the faith tree skills in Skills, too. --Ilde 02:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Navigation Menu

Editing the navigation menu (the list on the left) is done by editing the Sidebar page. Whether this can be done by anyone besides sysops (LaoTzu and myself), I'm unsure, but if I don't leave this note on the discussion page, I'll forget where to edit it and have to Google that same question for a third time :p -- Mishal (talk) (MUD finger) 01:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki Software Upgrades

  • 12 April 2009: Upgraded from 1.13.2 to 1.14.0

I'm so glad that I set this up with Subversion. Upgrading is so easy :)
-- Mishal (talk) (MUD finger) 15:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Learnt-at levels

I converted Learnt_at_level_table/Pishe to the format suggested here--seems to work pretty well, though it might be useful to have a way to show which category a number is in lower down, i.e., as it is, if you're near the bottom of the table it's hard to see at a glance whether it's, say, 75 in cu.ta or mi.ar--you have to count columns or scroll back up. I was thinking possibly background colours for individual cells, something like:

faith
rituals
offensive defensive curing misc special
area target area self target self target area self target
Turn Undead 100
Warm 999 30
Wicker Ward 999

Added a couple of extra numbers to show what text looks like against the light green and blue (chose the colours to match what those types of rituals look like as wards, seemed appropriate--though sadly it means misc and ri.sp are both white. Could make ri.sp grey or something). Anyway--this would be pretty quick to add (just a replace operation on "--fa.ri.def" and so forth--those comments are terribly useful) and would look nice, but the downside--which you'll see if you edit the page--is that it clutters up the code enormously and would make it more difficult to edit. But then, what with the nature of these, they probably wouldn't need to be edited very often. Thoughts?

--Ilde 03:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ooh yes, the colours are very nice :) My first thought was to have them match the colours that we already use for the meditate box, though maybe a lighter shade of each, making offensive red, defensive green, healing yellow and miscellaneous grey (though we still wouldn't have a colour for special...). Alternatively/additionally we could replicate the header either halfway down the table or at the bottom of the table:
faith
rituals
offensive defensive curing misc special
area target area self target self target area self target
Turn Undead 100
Warm 999 30
faith
rituals
offensive defensive curing misc special
area target area self target self target area self target
Wicker Ward 999
My main concern with doing it with this table format is that we remove the comments for each skill, so if, for example, the skill at which a ritual was learnt switched from faith to fa.ri.mi.ta, it wouldn't be too easy to do (though it'd be easy enough to just copy a full line, I guess). Also, there isn't any distinction between fa and fa.ri, but I don't think we really need one, do we?
I wonder if templates can be used for individual table rows. That would certainly make things easier. Instead of putting the code for a full row in each page, we could just use, say, {{LearntAtTableRow | fa.ri.mi.ta=175}} and have the template take care of it all. Would only work if templates get replaced in pages BEFORE tables get parsed, though. This would also solve the problem of the messy code with colours...
-- Mishal (talk) (MUD finger) 08:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm... true, but I think it would be easy enough to just copy from another row, since most of them are learned at a level of a subskill. And we could always put a full, empty row somewhere as an example/thing to copy. The template thing sounds cool, though... think that's doable?
--Ilde 21:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)