Difference between revisions of "Research and Ideas/Res return and res xp"
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− | Special thanks goes to Laule for the forty plus resses, and for messing up his alignment for the research. :) And thanks also go to Baralai, Carasel, FraLipoLipi, Hurry, Nisphozous, and Vogue for resses, to Uheel for donating some data from his own resses, and to Vogue and Zph for dying for science. | + | Special thanks goes to Laule for the forty plus resses, and for messing up his alignment for the research. :) And thanks also go to Baralai, Carasel, FraLipoLipi, Hurry, Nisphozous, and Vogue for resses, to Uheel for donating some data from his own resses, and to Chare, Vogue and Zph for dying for science. |
This is an attempt at determining the relationships between cu.ta bonus, ritual modifiers, xp returned to the ghost, and xp awarded to the resser from the [[Resurrect]] ritual. | This is an attempt at determining the relationships between cu.ta bonus, ritual modifiers, xp returned to the ghost, and xp awarded to the resser from the [[Resurrect]] ritual. | ||
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| 278 || slightly easier – near sacred shower (AM) || very happy || 87704 || '''28069''' || 32.0% || 2762 || | | 278 || slightly easier – near sacred shower (AM) || very happy || 87704 || '''28069''' || 32.0% || 2762 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 304 || none || very happy || 21265 || '''8083''' || 38.0% || '''1116''' || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 304 || somewhat more difficult – barely feel the presence of Pishe – 261 fa.ri.sp || pleased - 5 || 89659 || '''33176''' || 37.0% || '''3362''' || | ||
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| 317 || quite a bit easier – high altar, rain || pleased - 17 || 197830 || '''89023''' || 45.0% || ~6800 || | | 317 || quite a bit easier – high altar, rain || pleased - 17 || 197830 || '''89023''' || 45.0% || ~6800 || | ||
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| 350 || none || pleased - extremely good || 161922|| '''77725''' || 48.0% || 6474 || | | 350 || none || pleased - extremely good || 161922|| '''77725''' || 48.0% || 6474 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 364 || none || pleased - 28 || 4194 || '''2183''' || 52.1% || '''401''' || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 380 || none || very happy || 9343 || '''5238''' || 56.1% || '''795''' || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 402 || none || very happy - 25 || 211836 || '''127104''' || 60.0% || '''9580''' || | | 402 || none || very happy - 25 || 211836 || '''127104''' || 60.0% || '''9580''' || | ||
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| 411 || quite a bit easier - altar, rain || very happy || 5147879 || 3397549 || 66.0% || '''124255''' || | | 411 || quite a bit easier - altar, rain || very happy || 5147879 || 3397549 || 66.0% || '''124255''' || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 411 || somewhat more difficult – barely feel the presence of Pishe – 318 fa.ri.sp || pleased – 4 || 137109 || '''83642''' || 61.0% || '''6909''' || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 411 || none || pleased - 6 || 33782 || '''20947''' || 62.0% || '''2349''' || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 420 || none || pleased - 27 || 6123 || '''3924''' || 64.1% || '''634''' || | ||
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| 420 || quite a bit easier - altar, rain || very happy || 254258 || '''170363''' || 67.0% || '''12038''' || | | 420 || quite a bit easier - altar, rain || very happy || 254258 || '''170363''' || 67.0% || '''12038''' || | ||
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! xp at death || xp returned || priest's res xp || log<sub>xp returned</sub>(res xp) | ! xp at death || xp returned || priest's res xp || log<sub>xp returned</sub>(res xp) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 4194 || 2183 || 401 || .780 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 6123 || 3924 || 634 || .780 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9343 || 5238 || 795 || .780 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 21265 || 8083 || 1116 || .780 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 33782 || 20947 || 2349 || .780 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 89659 || 33176 || 3362 || .780 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 91897 || 41356 || 3992 || .780 | | 91897 || 41356 || 3992 || .780 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 137109 || 83642 || 6909 || .780 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 211836 || 127104 || 9580 || .780 | | 211836 || 127104 || 9580 || .780 | ||
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! xp at death || xp returned || priest's res xp || priest's xp rate | ! xp at death || xp returned || priest's res xp || priest's xp rate | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 4194 || '''2183''' || '''401''' || 61700 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 6123 || '''3924''' || '''634''' || 58600 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9343 || '''5238''' || '''795''' || 53900 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 21265 || '''8083''' || '''1116''' || 45100 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 33782 || '''20947''' || '''2349''' || 33400 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 89659 || '''33176''' || '''3362''' || 28100 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 137109 || '''83642''' || '''6909''' || 22300 | ||
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| 18050 || '''8303''' || 1134 || 18400 | | 18050 || '''8303''' || 1134 || 18400 |
Revision as of 23:56, 14 January 2012
Special thanks goes to Laule for the forty plus resses, and for messing up his alignment for the research. :) And thanks also go to Baralai, Carasel, FraLipoLipi, Hurry, Nisphozous, and Vogue for resses, to Uheel for donating some data from his own resses, and to Chare, Vogue and Zph for dying for science.
This is an attempt at determining the relationships between cu.ta bonus, ritual modifiers, xp returned to the ghost, and xp awarded to the resser from the Resurrect ritual.
Contents
Main table of res data
Where xp returned is bolded, it's the precise amount (to within a few xp)--in other words, leaving out all xp received while dead. (Using a health bar plugin and making sure it's updating constantly during the res makes it fairly easy to see this.) Likewise, when res xp is bolded, it's the precise amount and doesn't include any command xp or heartbeat xp. Non-bolded amounts for both of those still have an attempt at not including command/heartbeat xp, but they may be off.
The "visible modifiers" in question are the ones you see when you perform the ritual--the message that goes, "You are finding it somewhat more difficult to perform resurrect because you can barely feel the presence of Pishe." and so on.
It's worth noting that the modifiers you start performing the ritual with seem to be the important ones--if it stops raining partway through the ritual, you still get the bonus.
All resurrectors are Pishite priests, unless otherwise noted. (Likewise, numeric alignments are degrees good unless otherwise noted.)
cu.ta | visible modifiers | alignment | xp at death | xp returned | % returned | priest's res xp | notes |
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278 | slightly easier – near sacred shower (AM) | very happy | 270850 | 86672 | 32.0% | 7000 | |
278 | slightly easier – near sacred shower (AM) | very happy | 87704 | 28069 | 32.0% | 2762 | |
304 | none | very happy | 21265 | 8083 | 38.0% | 1116 | |
304 | somewhat more difficult – barely feel the presence of Pishe – 261 fa.ri.sp | pleased - 5 | 89659 | 33176 | 37.0% | 3362 | |
317 | quite a bit easier – high altar, rain | pleased - 17 | 197830 | 89023 | 45.0% | ~6800 | |
317 | quite a bit easier – high altar, rain | pleased - 18 | 91897 | 41356 | 45.0% | 3992 | |
326 | somewhat easier - rain; somewhat negated - far from a sacred shower (near Death's domain) | very happy | 2552484 | 1123094 | 44.0% | 52390 | |
344 | somewhat more difficult - far from a sacred shower (Genua) | pleased – 27 | 18050 | 8303 | 46.0% | 1134 | |
344 | quite a bit easier - in an area considered holy and you feel uplifted by the rain. | very happy – 26 | 42079 | 21884 | 52.0% | 2464 | |
350 | none | pleased - extremely good | 161922 | 77725 | 48.0% | 6474 | |
364 | none | pleased - 28 | 4194 | 2183 | 52.1% | 401 | |
380 | none | very happy | 9343 | 5238 | 56.1% | 795 | |
402 | none | very happy - 25 | 211836 | 127104 | 60.0% | 9580 | |
410 | slightly easier – near sacred shower (BP) | very happy | 1517013 | 956128 | 63.0% | 46204 | |
410 | none | very happy | 153320 | 95825 | 62.5% | 7638 | |
410 | quite a bit easier – Sto Lat altar | very happy | 422671 | 271447 | 64.2% | 17262 | |
410 | somewhat more difficult – far from altar, Genua | very happy | 319195 | 191710 | 60.1% | 13189 | |
410 | much more difficult/somewhat mitigated – baton (343 rod bonus) + in AM | very happy | 107339 | 63523 | 59.2% | 5562 | |
410 | slightly easier – near sacred shower (BP) | very happy? | 1554299 | 996236 | 64.1% | 47085 | |
411 | quite a bit easier - altar, rain | very happy | 5147879 | 3397549 | 66.0% | 124255 | |
411 | somewhat more difficult – barely feel the presence of Pishe – 318 fa.ri.sp | pleased – 4 | 137109 | 83642 | 61.0% | 6909 | |
411 | none | pleased - 6 | 33782 | 20947 | 62.0% | 2349 | |
420 | none | pleased - 27 | 6123 | 3924 | 64.1% | 634 | |
420 | quite a bit easier - altar, rain | very happy | 254258 | 170363 | 67.0% | 12038 | |
438 | much more difficult – baton (rod bonus 346) | pleased – 28 | 67423 | 42482 | 63.0% | 4178 | |
438 | somewhat more difficult - far from a sacred shower (Genua) | pleased – 31 | 22536 | 14876 | 66.0% | 1748 | |
438 | none | pleased – 26 | 136329 | 92706 | 68.0% | 7436 | |
438 | slightly easier – near sacred shower (AM) | pleased – 29 | 44243 | 30085 | 68.0% | 3064 | |
438 | quite a bit easier - in an area considered holy and you feel uplifted by the rain. | very happy – 25 | 22706 | 16124 | 71.0% | 1865 | |
441 | somewhat more difficult - far from a sacred shower (Genua) | very happy | 1872410 | 1256248 | 67.1% | ? | |
441 | quite a bit easier – near sacred shower, rain | pleased (extremely good) | 65000 | 47000 | 72.3% | 3921 | death xp and xp return pretty approximate |
441 | quite a bit easier – near sacred shower, rain | pleased (extremely good) | 171000 | 120915 | 70.7 | 10149 | death xp and xp return approximate |
441 | somewhat easier/somewhat negated – snow + near sacred shower;dust devil | pleased (extremely good) | 200000 | 132080 | 66.0% | 9621 | death xp and xp return approximate |
441 | a bit more difficult/completely mitigated – dust devil + near sacred shower | pleased (extremely good) | 568434 | 386909 | 68.1% | ? | |
448 | quite a bit easier – near sacred shower, rain | pleased (extremely good) | 750997 | 533745 | 71.1% | 28958 | |
458 | somewhat more difficult - far from a sacred shower (Genua) | pleased – 32 | 15302 | 10714 | 70.0% | 1342 | |
458 | slightly easier – near sacred shower (AM) | pleased – 30 | 30793 | 22173 | 72.0% | 2401 | |
450 | none | pleased – 26 | 30000000 | 21000000 | 70.0% | 514396 | first of a set of six |
450 | none | pleased – 26 | 21001557 | 14701092 | 70.0% | 349176 | same set, res xp affected by rate |
450 | none | pleased – 26 | 120657 | 84462 | 70.0% | 3818 | same set, res xp affected by rate |
458 | a lot easier- actively worshipping Pishe, area considered holy, uplifted by the rain. | pleased – 26 | 10880358 | 8160271 | 75.0% | 225162 | same set, res xp affected by rate |
458 | none | pleased – 26 | 90221 | 64059 | 71.0% | 3098 | same set, res xp affected by rate |
458 | quite a bit easier - in an area considered holy, rain | pleased – 26 | 14702607 | 10879932 | 74.0% | 169776 | same set, res xp affected by rate |
450 | none | very happy – 25 | 8163036 | 5714125 | 70.0% | 186392 | first of a second (large) set |
450 | much more difficult – baton (rod bonus 344) | pleased – 26 | 5714719 | 3771717 | 66.0% | 134798 | |
450 | none | pleased – 27 | 3772527 | 2640771 | 70.0% | 99598 | Not fixing alignment in-between. 368 fa.ri.sp bonus. Res xp started being affected by rate |
450 | none | pleased – 28 | 2641227 | 1848858 | 70.0% | 65223 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | none | pleased – 29 | 1849545 | 1294687 | 70.0% | 45305 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | none | pleased – 30 | 1309948 | 916963 | 70.0% | 33059 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | none | pleased – 31 | 917200 | 642043 | 70.0% | 24616 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | none | pleased – 32 | 642427 | 449698 | 70.0% | 18298 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | none | pleased – 33 | 478127 | 334691 | 70.0% | 14297 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | none | pleased – 34 | 334934 | 234453 | 70.0% | 11016 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 35 | 234645 | 166600 | 71.0% | 8344 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 36 | 166879 | 118484 | 71.0% | 6363 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 37 | 118811 | 84355 | 71.0% | 5004 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 38 | 474494 | 336890 | 71.0% | 14694 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 39 | 342202 | 242966 | 71.0% | 11304 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 40 | 243197 | 172672 | 71.0% | 8582 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 41 | 172903 | 122761 | 71.0% | 6492 | Res xp still affected by xp rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 42 | 122968 | 87310 | 71.0% | 6691 | hour after the first one in set, res xp still slightly affected by rate |
450 | somewhat easier – rain | pleased – 43 | 87616 | 62210 | 71.0% | 5053 | |
450 | none | pleased – 44 | 62408 | 43685 | 70.0% | 3806 | |
450 | none | pleased – 45 | 214407 | 150087 | 70.0% | 10902 | over an hour after the second one in set, res xp no longer affected by rate |
450 | none | pleased – 46 | 155288 | 108701 | 70.0% | 8480 | |
450 | none | pleased – 47 | 108908 | 76238 | 70.0% | 6428 | |
450 | none | pleased – 48 | 76469 | 53528 | 70.0% | 4878 | |
450 | none | concerned – 49 | 53747 | 37625 | 70.0% | 3708 | |
450 | none | concerned – 50 | 37973 | 26584 | 70.0% | 2825 | |
450 | none | concerned – 50 | 26815 | 18773 | 70.0% | 2154 | |
450 | none | pleased – 15 | 211990 | 148396 | 70.0% | 10806 | |
450 | somewhat more difficult – can barely feel the presence of Pishe | pleased – 5 | 153774 | 106104 | 69.0% | 8321 | |
450 | somewhat more difficult – can barely feel the presence of Pishe | concerned – 1 | 107502 | 74176 | 69.0% | 6292 | |
450 | much more difficult – barely feel the presence of Pishe and gods have averted their eyes from this place (Granny's roof) | pleased – 2 | 75799 | 45482 | 60.0% | 4296 | |
450 | much more difficult – barely feel the presence of Pishe and Hat high altar | pleased – 3 | 46265 | 27759 | 60.0% | 2923 | |
450 | quite a bit more difficult -- barely feel the presence of Pishe, far from a sacred shower (Genua) | pleased – 4 | 28404 | 19030 | 67.0% | 2177 | |
458 | somewhat more difficult - far from a sacred shower (Genua), partially mitigated - actively worshipping Pishe | pleased – 7 (quite good) | 19639 | 13946 | 71.0% | 2086 | res xp less precise |
458 | quite a bit easier - actively worshipping Pishe, rain; somewhat negated - far from a sacred shower (Genua) | very happy - 26 | 213111 | 153442 | 72.0% | 11335 | |
476 | somewhat easier - rain | pleased - 28 | 109216 | 81915 | 75% | 6554 | |
491 | somewhat easier - rain | pleased - 27 | 137619 | 103217 | 75% | 4514 | |
516 | quite a bit easier - in an area considered holy, rain | pleased (26 good) | 298085 | 223566 | 75.0% | 14484 | |
516 | somewhat more difficult - far from a sacred shower (Genua) | pleased (~27 good) | 231092 | 173321 | 75.0% | 12282 |
Summary: xp return
- Xp return (as a percentage) seems to depend purely on bonus and modifiers, not amount of xp the person died with, as a 450 bonus with no visible modifiers gets a 70% return on amounts from just over 26k, up to 30 million (the maximum xp someone can have).
- A 458 bonus is enough to get the maximum return if a few ritual bonuses (high altar, and rain, and recently prayed) are applied.
- A 476 bonus is enough to get the maximum return with one ritual bonus (being in the rain).
- A 516 bonus is enough to get the maximum return even far from a high altar.
Summary: Pishite's xp
Res xp seems to be affected by the performer's xp rate, possibly in a similar manner to burial xp. Aside from this, the formula that res xp equals ((xp returned to ghost) ^ .78) fits well, although it's difficult to be sure without more data points.
Res xp table
This is a table of resses where both xp returned and the priest's res xp were fairly precisely known, and where the priest's xp rate wasn't high enough for there to be a penalty to res xp. (Alternatively, where 1)at least one of those was precisely know, 2)the slightly imprecise figure was enough xp that even an error of a few hundred would amount to less than a tenth of a percent, and the xp could be calculated to within a few hundred, and 3)the priest's xp rate wasn't high enough for a penalty. These have the "slightly doubtful" thing italicized.)
The last column is the log of the priest's res xp, in the base of (xp returned). In other words, the xp returned raised to the power of the number in that column equals the priest's res xp. This is rounded to three decimal places.
xp at death | xp returned | priest's res xp | logxp returned(res xp) |
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4194 | 2183 | 401 | .780 |
6123 | 3924 | 634 | .780 |
9343 | 5238 | 795 | .780 |
21265 | 8083 | 1116 | .780 |
33782 | 20947 | 2349 | .780 |
89659 | 33176 | 3362 | .780 |
91897 | 41356 | 3992 | .780 |
137109 | 83642 | 6909 | .780 |
211836 | 127104 | 9580 | .780 |
254258 | 170363 | 12038 | .780 |
1517013 | 956128 | 46204 | .780 |
1554299 | 996236 | 47085 | .779 |
5147879 | 3397549 | 124255 | .780 |
30000000 | 21000000 | 514396 | .780 |
Res xp vs xp rate
This is a table of resses where the priest's xp rate (before the res) was known (precisely or not). More precise xp return and res xp are bolded.
When a range, or less than/greater than a certain amount is given, it means the xp rate was deduced (from timing of numberchasing achievements being achieved, and/or from the resses being part of a set of many in a row, such that the least the priest's xp rate could have been was the sum of the res xp from all the resses in the last hour). Otherwise it was taken from the achievement progress in Good Day shortly beforehand.
xp at death | xp returned | priest's res xp | priest's xp rate |
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4194 | 2183 | 401 | 61700 |
6123 | 3924 | 634 | 58600 |
9343 | 5238 | 795 | 53900 |
21265 | 8083 | 1116 | 45100 |
33782 | 20947 | 2349 | 33400 |
89659 | 33176 | 3362 | 28100 |
137109 | 83642 | 6909 | 22300 |
18050 | 8303 | 1134 | 18400 |
42079 | 21884 | 2464 | 14900 |
91897 | 41356 | 3992 | 46200 |
161922 | 77725 | 6474 | 15600 |
197830 | 89023 | 6800 | 35300 |
211836 | 127104 | 9580 | 21400 |
254258 | 170363 | 12038 | 19800 |
109216 | 81915 | 6554 | 77900 |
137619 | 103217 | 4514 | 87000 |
5147879 | 3397549 | 124255 | 18900 |
30000000 | 21000000 | 514396 | < 136428 |
21001557 | 14701092 | 349176 | 514396 - 650824 |
120657 | 84462 | 3818 | 863572 - 1000000 |
90221 | 64059 | 3098 | 867390 - 1003818 |
14702607 | 10879932 | 169776 | 870488 - 1006916 |
10880358 | 8160271 | 225162 | 525868 - 662296 |
8163036 | 5714125 | 186392 | > 0 |
5714719 | 3771717 | 134798 | > 186392 |
3772527 | 2640771 | 99598 | > 321190 |
2641227 | 1848858 | 65223 | > 420788 |
1849545 | 1294687 | 45305 | > 486011 |
1309948 | 916963 | 33059 | > 531316 |
917200 | 642043 | 24616 | > 564375 |
642427 | 449698 | 18298 | > 588991 |
478127 | 334691 | 14297 | > 607289 |
334934 | 234453 | 11016 | > 621586 |
234645 | 166600 | 8344 | > 632602 |
166879 | 118484 | 6363 | > 640946 |
118811 | 84355 | 5004 | > 647309 |
474494 | 336890 | 14694 | > 652313 |
342202 | 242966 | 11304 | > 667007 |
243197 | 172672 | 8582 | > 678311 |
172903 | 122761 | 6492 | > 686893 |
122968 | 87310 | 6691 | > 506993 |
87616 | 62210 | 5053 | > 513684 |
62408 | 43685 | 3806 | > 518737 |
214407 | 150087 | 10902 | > 387745 |
155288 | 108701 | 8480 | > 398647 |
108908 | 76238 | 6428 | > 407127 |
76469 | 53528 | 4878 | > 413555 |
53747 | 37625 | 3708 | > 418433 |
37973 | 26584 | 2825 | > 422141 |
26815 | 18773 | 2154 | > 424966 |
211990 | 148396 | 10806 | > 427120 |
153774 | 106104 | 8321 | > 437926 |
107502 | 74176 | 6292 | > 446247 |
75799 | 45482 | 4296 | > 452539 |
46265 | 27759 | 2923 | > 456835 |
28404 | 19030 | 2177 | > 459758 |
19639 | 13946 | 2086 | > 461935 |
213111 | 153442 | 11335 | > 464021 |