Talk:Prayer beads

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Moving and clicking

Could someone please confirm the faith.rituals.special check when moving/clicking? --LaoTzu 14:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

(Priests) Sorin wisps: Clicking beads seems to take ra.ri.sp into account some how, right?
(Priests) Scouter wisps: probably
That's all I have :P -- Mishal (talk) (MUD finger) 17:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone tried confirming this with mock? --Aell (talk) (MUD finger) 17:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Relic Replacement

From the wiki it looks like the beads will act as relic replacement when they are charged to +2 wisdom, but I've got a set that already works as relic while at the bright stage:

In meditating over the set of prayer beads, you manage to gain some insight about it. It is consecrated to Seven-Handed Sek, and remembering The High Altar of Sek for you. It is a holy relic of Sek, a holy symbol, a holy amulet and a set of prayer beads.

This is a string of prayer beads; twenty-seven perfect obsidian spheres threaded onto a blood-red cord. The surface of each bead is etched with an intricate runic character, representing prayers and meditations dedicated to Sek. None of the beads have been moved around the circle.
The set of prayer beads beats regularly with blood-red pulses of light.
It is surrounded by a bright holy aura instilled by the numerous invocations it has been involved in.
Just beneath the surface, you can make out what looks like a pair of glittering eyes.
--Rigrig 16:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I have a set that replaces a relic at a strong aura:

This is a string of prayer beads; twenty-seven perfect obsidian spheres threaded onto a blood-red cord. The surface of each bead is etched with an intricate runic character, representing prayers and meditations dedicated to Sek.
None of the beads have been moved around the circle.
The set of prayer beads beats regularly with blood-red pulses of light.
It is surrounded by a strong holy aura instilled by the numerous invocations it has been involved in.

In meditating over the set of prayer beads, you manage to gain some insight about it. It is consecrated to Seven-Handed Sek. It is a holy relic of Sek. (was unable to find anyone who could meditate on them for a better result)
Marcus 21:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

On a similar note: I started charging a new set of standard beads (through one consecration, then praying after that), and they started acting as a holy amulet replacement during the "pale" or "faint" stage (it was pale when I found that they replaced an amulet, but I hadn't checked since "faint", so it could have turned during either). They started acting as a symbol replacement a little later, still during "pale".
Then I tried charging another set using only rituals, with the same result. (I started with a bunch of performances of Demoralise, which is only 10 gp.) So the replacement thing seems to depend on gp, not number of performances, and praying vs. doing rituals doesn't seem to make a difference.
--Ilde 00:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about relic replacement, but I have a set of beads at pale that don't act as a symbol replacement. I don't know what happened, but maybe the exact requirements have changed? Sorekara 08:06, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

symbol/amulet replacement and invocations

I know before I've suggested that "symbol replacement" and the likes might be linked to "number of invocations". After reading about Ilde's tests, I did some for my own. The "invocation" part in the beads description appears to be determined only by total gp spent. I charged one set to "symbol" using prayers, and one using artefact inquisition. I think the different results when praying are due to getting the "You find yourself slightly distracted from your prayers." message. Fa.ri.sp of 247. I've updated the wiki with these results. (I might test up to "relic" later).

artefact inquisition
number gp beads replacing
1 20 pale, flickering occasional
16 320 weakly flickering occasional
51 1020 flickering few
101 2020 unsteady few
251 5020 faint handful
401 8020 pale handful amulet
525 10500 " " symbol

Sadly, I didn't check whether the beads were a symbol between 500 and 525.

praying with 300 gp
number gp beads replacing
1 300 pale, flickering occasional
2 600 weakly flickering occasional
4 1200 flickering few
8 2400 unsteady few
18 5400 faint handful
30 9000 pale, flickering handful amulet
38 11400 " " symbol